The Pendulum Will Swing


#41

I know harry reid probably regrets the nuclear option about right now. But yeah we should take the mistake liberals did and learn from it.


#42

“Take the guns first, go through due process second.”


#43

Isn’t Trump asking for funds for new sections of not yet approved wall?

Didn’t previous legislation provide funds for repairing/replacing existing wall?

Was there more wall that had been approved that didn’t get built? That last question referring to 600+ miles of barriers approved and built between the Bush/Obama years?


#44

Mic drop.


#45

That is the worst argument ever.

Just because they voted for something before doesn’t bind them to the here and now. AOC points out previous tax rates to justify raising them now. If I use the above logic that would make sense. Does that make sense?


#46

Yeah. And if he sets this precedent it will be all the more simple for declaring our mass shootings an epidemic and national emergency.

None of his supporters are thinking this through. They wanted a win, they are awestruck by trump’s celebrity, and they have no will to admit they have made a tremendous mistake.


#47

I think your forgetting a little thing called the second amendment.


#48

I believe that you are confusing DACA with DAPA. DAPA was never implemented since it was blocked by the courts.


#49

#50

What “precedent” exactly is he setting. Here’s a current list of active “National Emergencies”.

Here’s a list of the 28 active national emergencies:

  1. Blocking Iranian Government Property (Nov. 14, 1979)

  2. Proliferation of Weapons of Mass Destruction (Nov. 14, 1994)

  3. Prohibiting Transactions with Terrorists Who Threaten to Disrupt the Middle East Peace Process (Jan. 23, 1995)

  4. Prohibiting Certain Transactions with Respect to the Development of Iranian Petroleum Resources (Mar. 15, 1995)

  5. Blocking Assets and Prohibiting Transactions with Significant Narcotics Traffickers (Oct. 21, 1995)

  6. Regulations of the Anchorage and Movement of Vessels with Respect to Cuba (Mar. 1, 1996)

  7. Blocking Sudanese Government Property and Prohibiting Transactions with Sudan (Nov. 3, 1997)

  8. Blocking Property of Persons Who Threaten International Stabilization Efforts in the Western Balkans (Jun. 26, 2001)

  9. Continuation of Export Control Regulations (Aug. 17, 2001)

  10. Declaration of National Emergency by Reason of Certain Terrorist Attacks (Sept. 14, 2001)

  11. Blocking Property and Prohibiting Transactions with Persons who Commit, Threaten to Commit, or Support Terrorism (Sept. 23, 2001)

  12. Blocking Property of Persons Undermining Democratic Processes or Institutions in Zimbabwe (Mar. 6, 2003)

  13. Protecting the Development Fund for Iraq and Certain Other Property in Which Iraq has an Interest (May 22, 2003)

  14. Blocking Property of Certain Persons and Prohibiting the Export of Certain Goods to Syria (May 11, 2004)

  15. Blocking Property of Certain Persons Undermining Democratic Processes or Institutions in Belarus (Jun. 16, 2006)

  16. Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (Oct. 27, 2006)

  17. Blocking Property of Persons Undermining the Sovereignty of Lebanon or Its Democratic Processes and Institutions (Aug. 1, 2007)

  18. Continuing Certain Restrictions with Respect to North Korea and North Korean Nationals (Jun. 26, 2008)

  19. Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in Somalia (Apr. 12, 2010)

  20. Blocking Property and Prohibiting Certain Transactions Related to Libya (Feb. 25, 2011)

  21. Blocking Property of Transnational Criminal Organizations (Jul. 25, 2011)

  22. Blocking Property of Persons Threatening the Peace, Security, or Stability of Yemen (May 16, 2012)

  23. Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Ukraine (Mar. 6, 2014)

  24. Blocking Property of Certain Persons With Respect to South Sudan (Apr. 3, 2014)

  25. Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in the Central African Republic (May 12, 2014)

  26. Blocking Property and Suspending Entry of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Venezuela (Mar. 9, 2015)

  27. Blocking the Property of Certain Persons Engaging in Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities (Apr. 1, 2015)

  28. Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Burundi (Nov. 23, 2015)

You’re right about one thing, the pendulum has swung back. The difference is that Trump is now president.


#51

The money was approved, “Secure Fences Act” but then they never completed the project failing to appropriate all of the money.

Existing law gives the POTUS the ability to use existing funds and use the military for construction work should he declare an emergency without waiting on congressional appropriations.


#52

The difference is that none of those are made up.


#53

Two questions:

Why didn’t your boy spend all the money appropriated for border security?

And:

Why didn’t he have Mexico pay for his precious wall when he had the majority?

Answer those without the typical deflection and goal post movements and I’ll be impressed.


#54

The project was amended by later legislation and the new goals were funded and achieved.

Aren’t those funding options limited to existing DoD funded construction projects?