Should the President suspend habeas corpus and arrest those invading our borders?


#21

If they truly are invaders they should be shot on sight!

Anything less is the President failing to perform his sworn duties.


#22

Biblical phrasing in the OP - the ‘swarms’ and ‘flood’ of invaders. Geez…


#23

Thank you. I fixed LINK

JWK


#25

I have a Queen she is pretty dope.


#26

Is that what you suggest?

:roll_eyes:

JWK

American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance a maternity ward for the poverty stricken populations of other countries who invade America’s borders to give birth.


#27

First of all, yes, he absolutely should suspend habeas corpus. I would like nothing more than to see his newest SC justice join the other eight in bitch slapping him.

Second, please tell me more of these “devastating consequences”. Perhaps we could compare and contrast them with the devastating consequences of this administration.


#28

Sorry, quote fail. This was meant for John Wick 2


#29

I like habeas corpus, and would not remove that right from US citizens.

I know that I am not smart enough to know what to do with the border issues (if they even exist in the way you’re portraying them), but I don’t think this is the particular time to remove the rights against unlawful detention. I just don’t see it ending well for my fellow citizens in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas.


#30

The devastating social and economic consequences of illegal border crossings

Ok. Let us take a look at the destructive social and economic consequences in just one county in California inflicted upon its citizens in 1995 when this massive invasion of our borders began to accelerate. CLICK HERE and scroll to page 93 for testimony given by JOAN ZINSER before the COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY, U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, DECEMBER 13, 1995

Good morning Chairman Smith and other honorable members of the Subcommittee on Immigration and Claims. I am Joan Zinser, Deputy Director of the San Diego County Department of Social Services. I direct the department’s Income Maintenance Bureau, which has responsibility for AFDC, Food Stamps and Medicaid eligibility determinations. I am here today to tell you about the effects of illegal immigration on the County’s assistance programs, and to present information regarding impacts on other county-funded services.

Impacts on San Diego County

In 1993, illegal aliens in San Diego County were estimated to be 7.9% of the population, or a total of almost 220,000 illegal aliens in a county with a population of slightly over 2 1/2 million. A 1993 Calffornia State Senate report estimated that the State, local governments - primarily the County - and schools incurred $304 million in costs to provide services to illegal aliens. These costs were offset by only $60 million in taxes generated by illegal aliens - leaving a net impact of $244 million.

Welfare Costs.

When a child is a US citizen, AFDC can be granted for the child but not the parent, if the parent is an undocumented immigrant. In 1992 there were 6,414 children born to undocumented immigrant parents in San Diego County hospitals. Each year, the illegal alien parents of nearly 2000 "citizen children" apply for and receive AFDC in San Diego County. The cumulative total of these "citizen child" cases continues to rise each year.

Public assistance is intended to support the citizen child, but is paid to the illegal alien parent and is, no doubt, used by the parent to support the entire family. Costs for providing AFDC to "citizen children" cases in San Diego totaled $37 million in 1993 for approximately 5430 AFDC cases.

Additional costs are incurred in Child Welfare Services. Combining costs for Out-of-Home and Family Maintenance services to families of illegal aliens results in an additional cost of $1.7 million.

Medicaid and Other Health-Related- Costs.

Medicaid services are an increasingly large portion of the costs involved in illegal immigration. In 1992, Medicaid paid for 6,414 births illegal alien mothers. Although studies have shown that illegal aliens use fewer Medicaid services than do the age-equivalent members of the general population, significant costs remain. Delivery costs are greater for babies with mothers lacking adequate prenatal care and many medical conditions are treated more cost-effectively in their early stages. Infectious diseases are also a major concern of the County. San Diego County has historically carried large costs because of illegal aliens with these problems. Costs associated with providing emergency and pregnancy related needs to illegal aliens are paid for under "restricted Medi-Cal benefits." During the 1992 calendar year, an estimated $37 million was paid for "restricted Medi-Cal benefits." Other costs, including uncompensated care in hospitals, community clinics, and other health services elevated the 1993 total costs to over $50 million.

Criminal justice.

A recent 90-day pilot project involved having INS Agents present in the county jails to interview those suspected of being an undocumented immigrant. Approximately 20% of the persons booked into the jails during that pilot were identified as being illegal aliens. With annual bookings of approximatel 105,000 persons a year, it is estimated that up to 21,000 were illegal aliens.

According to the San Diego County District Attorney, 8,521 felony crimes were committed by illegal aliens between 1987 and 1992. Illegal aliens commit an estimated 22% of felony crimes committed in the county. The number of misdemeanors committed during the same period in San Diego County by illegal aliens is estimated to be 17,000. In 1993, approximately 15. 1 % of the costs -accrued in dealing with crimes were spent on illegal aliens. Costs for illegal aliens to the legal system totaled $151 million in the County of San Diego for 1993.

Education.

Recently, a video of students crossing the border and getting on a school bus in San Diego County in order to receive free education was shown nationwide. Locally, we have worked to make sure that this situation does not recur, but education of the children of illegal aliens is also a significant CDSt. It is estimated that $60 million was spent in San Diego County in 1993 for education of illegal aliens.


And, more recently see:

Illegal aliens cost California billions

2004

”Illegal immigration costs the taxpayers of California — which has the highest number of illegal aliens nationwide — $10.5 billion a year for education, health care and incarceration, according to a study released yesterday.”

Also see:

Testimony about 51 Florida Hospitals in trouble due to illegal aliens expenses:

Jun 10, 2008

The above are the kind of facts our globalists want you to ignore, and expect you to continue to bear the burden of. Is there any wonder why so many hospitals in border states and elsewhere have shut down or closed their ER units!!!”?

Also take a look at Texas Faces Rising Cost For Illegal Immigrant Care

Aug 19, 2010

Texas spent at least $250 million in the past year for medical care and imprisonment of illegal immigrants and other non-citizens.

And how about this: The Fiscal Cost of Unlawful Immigrants and Amnesty to the U.S. Taxpayer

May 6, 2013

”In 2010, the average unlawful immigrant household received around $24,721 in government benefits and services while paying some $10,334 in taxes. This generated an average annual fiscal deficit (benefits received minus taxes paid) of around $14,387 per household. This cost had to be borne by U.S. taxpayers. Amnesty would provide unlawful households with access to over 80 means-tested welfare programs, Obamacare, Social Security, and Medicare. The fiscal deficit for each household would soar.”

And how about the tens of thousands of criminal aliens released into our nation’s population? See: Judicial Watch: 165,900 Criminal Aliens into US Population Through April 2014

Mar 2015

”Nearly 166,000 convicted criminal illegal aliens were released by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) as of April, 2014. This is the analysis of 76 pages of DHS documents obtained by Judicial Watch via Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests. The criminal illegal aliens include rapists, murderers and kidnappers.”

Is that enough or do you want more?

JWK

American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance the economic needs of millions of poverty stricken, poorly educated, low and unskilled aliens who have invaded America’s borders.


#31

How do you tell an illegal and a legal a part?


#32

If he does, he should be impeached the same day.


#33

I clicked on all of your links. “Go to the source” - that’s me. Three broken links, one from Judicial Watch, one from the Heritage Foundation, and a couple videos. So first, I can safely assume this is an old cut and paste reply that you keep handy for trying to make your case on immigration. Second, how would you respond if the identifiable sources supporting my argument were MSNBC and HuffPo? I’m guessing … “fake news”?


#34

The testimony to which JWK refers is from 1995… enough said


#35

Please, please, please do this 45.


#36

I too, like habeas corpus and would not suspended that right among American citizens. Having said that, we are here talking about an ongoing invasion of our southern border and foreigners, not American citizens.

But I do appreciate you responding to the thread with a legitimate concern. Aside from that, there is another legitimate concern among those who have been following illegal immigration since 1985 when 2.5 million illegal entrants were granted amnesty in return for a promise to secure our borders and stop illegal border crossings.

JWK

There is no surer way to weaken, subdue and then conquer a prosperous and freedom loving people than by allowing and encouraging the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low-skilled, criminal and diseased populations of other countries to invade that country, and make the country’s existing citizens tax-slaves to support the economic needs of such invaders.


#37

There seems to be a glitch in posting links, but I think I’ve fixed them.

In regard to your question, and if I suspected “fake news”, I would do a little research regarding the specific assertions.

JWK


#38

See Another, bigger migrant caravan is set to leave from Honduras next month

Dec 27, 2018

SAN DIEGO — Another migrant caravan — this one estimated at 15,000 people — is preparing to leave Honduras on Jan. 15, according to migrant rights advocates and Spanish-language media.

“They say they are even bigger and stronger than the last caravan,” said Irma Garrido, a member of the migrant advocacy group Reactiva Tijuana Foundation.

Apparently they are encourage by the smell of free government cheese, and judicial activists on our courts who work to release them into America’s towns and cities, regardless of the devastating consequences inflicted upon American citizens.

And HERE is the latest example of the consequences when our public servants place the interests of illegal entrants, over the interest of American citizens and their law enforcement officers.

JWK

American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance the economic needs of millions of poverty stricken, poorly educated, low and unskilled aliens who have invaded America’s borders.


#39

It’s only haphazardly enforced anyhow, as many sitting in detention centers can attest to, including children. What difference would it make now?


#40

No he should not. He needs to do his job and end the Trump Christmas/New Year Shutdown.


#41

Holy ■■■■ - what the hell has happened to the Republican party??

It looks like I got the hell out of that cesspool just in time.